Caught on Tape: PETA member shoves pie in the face of Canadian official

Caught on Tape: PETA member shoves pie in the face of Canadian official
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ONTARIO - A member of the animal rights activist group PETA thought a pie in the face would be the best way to make a statement.

This happened in Ontario, Canada.

A member of the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals shoved a pie in the face of Candaian Fisheries and Oceans Minister Gail Shea.
   
The accused pie-thrower was arrested and charged with assault.

She was upset about Canada’s seal-hunting program.

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Flag Comment Posted by Alyssa1982 on January 29, 2010 at 3:07 pm

Sigh.

I was once like YOU. You don’t seem to recognize how alike we are. We both are against cruelty to animals, but we chose to channel out energy in different ways.

I was wrong when I thought PETA actually helped animals. They don’t. They raise awareness, sure, in dumb ways, but they’ll never achieve their goal because they don’t HAVE any goals.

I am an occasional vegan, but for reasons to protect the environment more so than for helping out animals. I picked up a stray cat, Murphy, on one of my work terms. He turned out to be a she and had SIX kittens. I spayed each one, and found homes for 4 of them. When Dumbo, one of her litter, defenestrated himself from the 11th story of the apartment, I footed the 3500 bill for his broken leg. I donate to a shelter that not only cares for animals, but is petitioning to raise the prison term for those convicted of animal abuse.

The money I have spent on those animals has helped them. If I had given that money to PETA, it would go into paying for lawyers for criminals who assault, vandalize, or to celebs du jour for photo shoots, or to make stickers or useless vegetarian handouts (I ordered one, and it was filled with pictures of Pam Anderson, Natalie Portman ect and didn’t have a SINGLE recipe, just a link to their website.) What purpose does this serve besides wasting paper??

I think you have good intentions, but I think you are misguided, and if PETA is your parent organization, they are wasting your energy that could go to much better use, since you seem to be passionate about this cause.

I would seriously look at PETA and their actions, and read up on the criticisms they receive from GOOD sources. If you’re fine with what they do (I am patently against it), then stay with them. But if what you find disturbs you, or if you’ve ever walked into an underfunded shelter, or see what happens to moose because governments in Northern Ontario don’t always spring for proper animal crossings on highways, you’ll feel like I do now, and want to make a REAL difference. I just helped push for a 10m wide wildlife crossing for MTO when they fought it tooth and nail before. It will save countless lives of moose, deer and people too.

Finally, with PETA, they should learn from this:

Advice is like snow; the softer it falls, the deeper it sinks.

Flag Comment Posted by msalabama on January 29, 2010 at 2:15 pm

Alyssa, I am not going to debate with you.  There was a time when I was like you, unable to recognize the value of animals for their own sake and to respect them.  I cannot change your mind about cruelty to animals, as that is something which comes from within.  I hope you WILL someday have a turn around, like I have, for the animal’s sake, and because your passion indicates to me you would be so helpful if your passion is channeled in a positive direction.

Flag Comment Posted by Alyssa1982 on January 27, 2010 at 7:42 pm

I was able to access this from my work, though flash movies are filtered…

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/news_detail.cfm?ID=4090

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ads_detail.cfm?ad=35

http://www.animalscam.com/references/peta_rodney1.cfm

I think PETA operates poorly and has zero accountability or transparency. They depend on the majority of supporters to be quasi-interested or “skimmers”, those who skim over headings without doing any fact checking themselves to verify claims.

I once was a (blind) supporter of PETA, until a disturbing assault was committed on a 21-year old woman. I took a long, hard look at what PETA stood for, or says they do.
Examples:
Pamela Anderson’s Dodge Viper (auctioned to benefit PETA) had a “luxurious leather interior”; Jenna Jameson was photographed fishing, slurping oysters, and wearing a leather jacket just weeks after launching an anti-leather campaign for PETA; Morrissey got an official “okay” from PETA after eating at a steakhouse; Dita von Teese has written about her love of furs and foie gras; Steve-O built a career out of abusing small animals on film; the officially “anti-fur” Eva Mendes often wears fur anyway…

Is this meaningful?

Flag Comment Posted by Alyssa1982 on January 27, 2010 at 6:39 pm

I must add, however, that farming operations that stuff cows, chickens ect into tiny pens, trampling each other and swimming in their own waste and illness, is cruel, and debases humans.

Keeping cows in farms in the open, where they can chomp, move freely, are feed and are immunized against diseases with available vet care, prior to being eaten, is probably pretty good for the cow. In the wild they would have to deal with disease, food shortages and water droughts, predators hunting their young and old, and weather storms.

If animal husbandry is done well, with dignity and respect, sustainability and thoughtfulness, I think it within reason; other practices are not.

Flag Comment Posted by Alyssa1982 on January 27, 2010 at 4:11 pm

Treblinka!!?? You cannot seriously be comparing a Nazi death camp to hunting. I’d like to see you pull that in a room full of Holocaust survivors and their families.

This is the problem with extremists. They cannot discuss things. There are no rebuttals, only spouting of slogans arguments that more often than not are half-truths, misleading, and illogical.

You still haven’t answered what other animals should do regarding food, whether pups are more valued than no-pups, or where you draw the line for animal welfare. At vertebrates? Invertebrates? Insects?

Flag Comment Posted by msalabama on January 27, 2010 at 4:01 pm

Correction:  the book title is “Created Equal” by Rev. Ernie Bringas and you can get it from Amazon.com.  WE ALL HAVE A CHOICE IN THIS LIFE.  The eternal treblinka for animals cannot be justified in any way.

Flag Comment Posted by Alyssa1982 on January 27, 2010 at 3:36 pm

@msalabama

I went to the website of the HSUS. I rad all the comments about baby seals clubbed or shot. I saw many pictures of seals being hunted. I did not, however, see ANY pictures of a white-skin or baby pup. That’s because it is ILLEGAL. And those who are caught face severe fines and imprisonment.

It seems to me you are suggesting that the illegal hunting practices committed by one or more individuals condemns an entire population? By that logic, a person who murders someone in Alabama by gunshot would mean that ALL Alabamans are murderers. Murder is illegal in Alabama. Killing ‘baby seals’ is illegal in Canada. Murders do happen in Alabama on occasion. There are likely a handful of hunters who break the law as well. If the murderer is caught, they are tried and punished. The same goes for those who commit infractions on the hunt as well. This applies to the video (if it is even recent).

If this is your reasoning for not hunting, what do you think of animals hunting? Would you try to stop an Orca from hunting a baby whale because you feel sorry for the pup? Are you suggesting that Natives and Northern peoples who’s culture, religion and survival are intricately intertwined with these animals, stop hunting and eat tofu? In Nunavut?? That isn’t even sustainable if it were possible. Some of these people live over 3000km from anywhere urbanized! They live off the land as they have for generations.

Living in Alabama, you must have no appreciation for the life and geography of the people you chose to judge.

Also, why do you chose to underline the pups being killed rather than the cows or bulls? They also have feelings. Is it because there is an emotional aspect of it?

Humans are no different from animals. The hierarchy is not relevant. That is the argument of the PETA folk.By that token, humans must hunt, as other animals do.
Given a choice, I’d rather eat seals who are living naturally rather than beef raised on a farm or tofu grown in unsustainable greenhouses using excessive irrigation and heat. consumption.

Flag Comment Posted by msalabama on January 27, 2010 at 2:32 pm

Alyssa1982: I opened the link and read the information.  So why does the HSUS have video of baby seals being slaughtered?  Suggest you read “Animal Equality” by Rev. Ernie Bringas.  It might help you to grow a conscience.
WE ALL HAVE A CHOICE IN THIS LIFE:
WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO MERCY OR MISERY ON THE PLANET.  I choose mercy.

Flag Comment Posted by Alyssa1982 on January 27, 2010 at 12:31 pm

Wow, you’re exactly the kind of person PETA depends on to give them money - completely misinformed and emotionally impulsive.

They don’t club baby seals, and haven’t for many, many decades.

It is and has been illegal for nearly 30 years. The animal rights activits still use the seal pup as a means of tricking people.

Here’s a link with the REAL facts, if you even truly care, which I sincerely doubt…

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/seal-phoque/myth-eng.htm

As for getting what she deserves? Do you think that they should kill everyone who eats beef in the US? That would be roughly 385 million people - that’s a lot…and by the way VEAL is baby cow, and that’s legal.

Think before you speak. It helps a lot in life ;)

Flag Comment Posted by msalabama on January 27, 2010 at 12:13 pm

This is wonderful!  Next best thing to what Candaian Fisheries and Oceans Minister Gail Shea deserves.  What she deserves is the same thing the seal slaughterers do to the baby seals.

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